The message from Warwick Barnescontains these words: See bottom of message for WARNING CORRECTED VERSION 3 Sept 03 Sorry had a slight orientation problem! Has anyone got any information on constructing the diagnostics I/O interface board and leads for use with "Testbook" software on a PC??? there is a bit on my site, www.users.zetnet.co.uk/barnes_firsnorton Also www.planetfall.com/~jeff/obdii www.andywhittaker.com www.opendiag.org freediag at sourceforge I have hopefully identified the pins on the 14cux and have narrowed diagnostics down to pin 9 white/light green pin 18 white/pink pin 31 black/green looped back to earth when connector not attached to external diagnostic plug but attached to keeper plug in vehicle. on this basis I am suspecting that pins 9 and 18 are the ISO9141 K & L lines but which is which? FROM LATER A suggestion from NG article on burgular alarms suggests that the K line is pink the diagnostic sockets are 5 pin shake proof and the lucas tester diagnostic lead is terminated as follows with an additional connector to connect to vehicle cigar lighter or battery. x O O x O where O shows a connection ; and x no wire attached. looking at end the air suspension diagnostic adapter plug is:- NB female pins come in a male shroud and vice versa female male pins x O O x treating this as 1 2 O O O O x O 3 4 5 male female shroud then 2 pin female connects to 1 male i.e. straight through then 3 pin female connects to 5 male i.e. straight through then 5 pin female connects to 3 male i.e. straight through then 4 pin female connects to 5 female this suggests O x O x O in the vehicle with pin 1 K or L pin 3 loopback pin 5 K or L can anybody confirm this and add any useful information, particularly as to which is L and which is K One source who got a look inside says that ECM pins 9 and 18 run straight to the motorola microprocessor chip's serial ports, and as near as I can determine from Motorola docs these ports are bi-directional so should serve for ISO9141 K & L lines. note they are set to input after a reset! Now had a chance to examine vehicle 1993 efi 3.9 with lucas 14cux for both efi and air suspension. the wabco is a completely different plug; I am not even going there till I get some solid information. Air suspension male pins "O" looking at end. This is end connected to ecu O x using 1 2 O O O 3 4 5 (this matches adapter cable tester side pins exactly) pin 1 white/green stripe wire 2 not connected 3 black 4 black/pink stripe 5 white/pink stripe female pins "O" loopback/keeper looking at end x x x O x pin 4 black wire pins 1 2 3 5 not connected Electronic fuel injection male pins looking at end. This is end connecting ecu to diagnostic cable. O x using 1 2 O x O 3 4 5 pin 1 white/green (**? ecu pin 9 ) 2 not used 3 black (**? earth) 4 not used 5 white/pink (**? ecu pin 18 ) female pins loopback connector/keeper looking at end x x O x O pin 3 is connected to pin 5 which then runs out a black/green wire (**?ecu pin 31) NB the range rover manual does not show a connection between 3 and 5 whilst the ETM shows a connection but on the diagnostic half not the loopback half it would seem that in normal operation both ECU pins 18 and 31 are set to ground. I just discovered the correct reference for pins is as follows:- female pins male pins 5 3 1 1 3 5 4 2 2 4 looking at the ends; they match up when put together, Honest! :-) The only other piece of information I have gleaned from the ISO/SAE specs is that the L line input resistance to ground is not less than 5 Kohm even if ecu not in operation, and apart from initialisation it should idle in logic state 1 (about 8 1/2 to 12 volts). This would suggest that the L line should not ever be tied to ground, making it pin 9 on the ecu and my pin 1 (officially 4 ) on the diagnostic socket. 2004 Rovercom man says if you get K & L muddled up it won't blow the ECU : I really hope he is correct. THERE IT IS: best guess K line pin 18 L line pin 9 WARNING if you use this information you do so at your own risk, we cannot vouch for it's correctness, and do not accept any liability for bad things happening if you use this data. If you have better information we would be pleased to have a copy Thank You. Chris Barnes