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Jahnu-ism |
May 11
1999
BY KRISHNAKANT
The title of Jahnu's latest article 'The Consequences Of Ritvikism'
betrays the root of his, and many others, misconception that merely
following Srila Prabhupada's final institutional directive on initiation,
in and of itself, implies some new ism or vada. There is no separate vada
concerning the deployment of ceremonial priests to oversee initiation
ceremonies, so the term ritvikism is quite meaningless. The supposition
that some new philosophy is implied by such deployment has never been
substantiated. As shown in The Final Order', following the order neither
violates nor changes any philosophical point of Vaisnava siddhanta. For
Srila Prabhupada to continue to transmit diksa to disciples without
physical contact is absolutely in line with Bhagavata philosophy.
Starting with the title Jahnu's article goes down hill rapidly as we shall
demonstrate. We will quote his entire paper boxed, offering our
brief comments after his.
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*Ritvikism is
a deadly weapon of Kali. |
Above Jahnu merely assumes that which needs to be proven, that following Srila Prabhupada's order on initiation is against bona fide teachings. He has never substantiated this, and the fact is that the GBC are banning and intimidating anyone who does not agree with them. Where is the co-operation in that?
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*Guru as
God-brother |
Here Jahnu already assumes that Srila Prabhupada's disciples were meant to act as diksa gurus. This is the very point under debate, yet Jahnu argues as though the GBC had already presented clear evidence countermanding the July 9th policy directive.
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Accepting such absurd propositions is one of the gravest forms of the offense called maryada-vyatikrama. |
Only if the guru is actually an authorised initiating member of the disciplic succession. That is what Jahnu has never established. The following quote would only be relevant if Jahnu had already established his case.
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"Although
one may be well versed in the transcendental science, one should be
careful about the offense of maryada-vyatikrama, or impertinently
surpassing a greater personality. According to scriptural injunction
one should be very careful of transgressing the law of
maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing one loses his duration of
life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the
world. ...The Lord never tolerates the impertinence of
maryada-vyatikrama."
Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.4.26, purport |
But according to Srila Prabhupada's final directive on initiations he was to remain ISKCON's sole diksa guru. So in reality we are all Godbrother's and sisters. What is so bad about that?
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*It turns
Srila Prabhupada into a zonal-acarya |
Here Jahnu layers speculation upon speculation. Srila Prabhupada was not the diksa guru by some mere circumstance, he was so since that was how he set things up. Did anyone complain that he was a zonal guru in the 12 years he was the diksa guru? Then why should anyone say that if he continued now?
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Ritvikism implies that Srila Prabhupada was and should remain the zonal-acarya of the planet Earth, but where did Srila Prabhupada ever say that he wanted to be the only guru in ISKCON during his presence? What to speak of remaining the only guru after his departure. |
Srila Prabhupada set up ISKCON so he was the only diksa guru. How can Jahnu now speculate that that was not really how he had wanted it? What is his evidence for such speculation. He never invited his Godbrothers to come and initiate his own followers, far from it.
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*It fosters
the idea that one can take diksa from any previous acarya |
The above is based on the unproven assumption that Srila Prabhupada is no longer the current acarya.
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Recently a ritvik-maya-vadi was preaching to a lady congregational devotee suggesting that she take initiation from Srila Prabhupada, to which she replied, "If I can take initiation from Srila Prabhupada directly, then-being a grihastha-I would rather feel more inspired to take initiation from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura." |
Clearly the woman's understanding was as incomplete as Jahnu's. Notice Jahnu's use of the mayavadi insult, yet all he has shown is a snippet of a conversation with a women who did not understand the principle that one must approach the current link. Had she read TFO she would understand this point.
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Once the principle of taking diksa from a departed acarya is accepted, the sky is the limit. It would be surprising to start seeing people claiming to be initiated by Srila Rupa Gosvami or Srila Isvara Puri. |
One must take from the current link. That person is Srila Prabhupada, at least as far as members of ISKCON are concerned.
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*Encourages
people to take diksa outside ISKCON |
Thousands of Srila Prabhupada's disciples did not have personal one on one physical contact with him. Many disciples never met him once. Personal physical guidance was given by older devotees, just as it would be today were the system is re-instituted. This flood of people leaving ISKCON started when unauthorised disciples began posing as diksa gurus.
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*Ritvikism
Minimizes Srila Prabhupada's potency |
We are maximizing not minimizing. We are saying Srila Prabhupada is so potent that he can continue, through his books etc, to make Vaisnavas for up to ten thousand years. Since he is making the devotees, why should they not be his disciples?
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*Wasting time |
Jahnu is a prime example of someone who wastes so much time. He constantly raises inane unsubstantiated objections, and then ignores our response to merely re-present them yet again.
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*Turning
people away from Krishna Consciousness |
There is no use putting forward unauthorised gurus and then blaming us when they blackmail ISKCON, engage in illicit activity and blaspheme Srila Prabhupada. If you promote such people as though they were as good as God then you only have yourself to blame when it all backfires.
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*Providing
ammunition to the anti-cult movement |
Please see above.
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*Offending
Vaisnavas "My dear
King, if one derides an exalted devotee, he loses the results of his
pious activities, his opulence, his reputation and his sons.
Vaisnavas are all great souls. Whoever blasphemes them falls down to
the hell known as Maharaurava. He is also accompanied by his
forefathers. Whoever kills or blasphemes a Vaisnava and whoever is
envious of a Vaisnava or angry with him, or whoever does not offer
him obeisances or feel joy upon seeing a Vaisnava, certainly falls
into a hellish condition." |
This is all very true, but the definition of Vaisnava is that he only acts under the authority of the disciplic succession. Jahnu has failed to prove that the GBC are doing that, but has merely assumed that they are.
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*It promotes
irresponsibility |
We can deliver our dependants by introducing them to a bona fide spiritual master such as Srila Prabhupada.
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Ritvikists defy Srila Prabhupada's request to all his disciples to become qualified and make disciples all over the world. Ritvikists avoid taking responsibility and instead they want to burden Srila Prabhupada with all this obligation. |
No we fully agree that everyone should make Srila Prabhupada more disciples all over the world. Where did Srila Prabhupada complain about too many practicing disciples being a burden?
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*It renders
discipleship meaningless |
But that approach does not have to be to the physical body of the guru. Srila Prabhupada taught the exact opposite.
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Ritvikism
empties that relation of meaning and substance. |
Nice quotes. And bare in mind Srila Prabhupada never met many of his disciples even once, yet still everything was fine and the above was not violated.
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*It breaches
the law of disciplic succession |
It is not breaching the above law if a guru continues to accept disciples after he leaves. The above law only deals with the disciple, not any limitations on the guru. Disciples can initiate after departure providing they are _bona fide guru'. That means they must be mahabhagavat, and have been authorised to initiate by their spiritual master. At best Jahnu could argue that the recipient of the above letter, who was anxious for disciples even whilst Srila Prabhupada was present, could initiate once he had attained that level. But the above letter was not generally available until the mid-eighties, so how can it be used to terminate an instruction to the entire movement issued in 1977. Although Jahnu has been asked this many times, he refuses to answer, and instead simply wastes everyone's time by re-presenting the same evidence. We should call this activity Jahnuism.