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Reply to Druva Maharaja's Siksa-Diksa Paper |
This
is a reply to the above paper, which recently appeared on VNN and has also
been widely distributed as a booklet.
In this paper the author tries to 'solve' the 'guru' problems we
are facing in ISKCON by stating that we need to emphasise Srila Prabhupada
more, but only as our siksa guru, and that we must not continue to place
over-due emphasis on the Diksa Guru.
Though the author's intentions are good, the perfect solution as to
how to keep Srila Prabhupada in the centre was given by Srila Prabhupada
himself. Thus as will be shown, we do not need to speculate, look to
history, or to other sampradaya's to figure out what to do.
We simply need to directly follow the instructions given by Srila
Prabhupada himself.
Henceforward
all extracts from the above booklet will be boxed with our comments
following. Dhruva Maharaja
Dasa will be referred to as the 'author'.
| " State a
Concept. Support or
prove that concept with quotes from Srila Prabhupada's books or
succinct examples from Vedic culture, including the four bona fide
Vaisnava sampradaya's." |
The
above statement is in itself a concept - that one can prove a concept
by reference to Srila Prabhupada OR 'Vedic culture' - and thus the
author here suffers from self-referential incoherence, since the
author has not proved the above concept by reference to Srila
Prabhupada or vedic culture.
Indeed
it is the last phrase - "OR succinct examples from Vedic culture,
including the four bona fide Vaisnava sampradaya's" - that has
led to the erroneous conclusions produced by the author. One can ONLY determine the desires of Srila Prabhupada by
reference to Srila Prabhupada himself, not by reference to 'Vedic
culture'. One can of course SUPPORT Srila Prabhupada's teachings
by reference to 'vedic culture' but one cannot determine conclusively
or reject any of Srila Prabhupada's desires simply based on our
evaluation of 'vedic culture'. For
instance there are many things that Srila Prabhupada instituted that
cannot be determined by reference to Vedic culture or the other
vaisnava sampradaya's, and indeed one may in fact have to REJECT if we
used these as a criteria.
| "By presenting concepts in this manner I hope to remain free from speculation and theory, two of the innumerable anarthas that have kept me entangled in this rotten material world." |
As
we have shown, by trying to determine what Srila Prabhupada wanted us to
do in ISKCON by referring to sources that have nothing to do with Srila
Prabhupada's instructions for ISKCON.
The author has actually simply done the above, 'given a speculation
and theory', which may or may not be correct.
Only confirmation from Srila Prabhupada will determine this.
|
"The
Ramanuja (Sri) sampradaya and Madhva (Brahma) sampradaya are
successfully established Vedic lineage's, and Srila Prabhupada's
disciples would do well to follow these tried and proven examples.
By following this cultural ideal we would also create a
panacea for those suffering from confusion or doubts about having a
maha-bhagavata, uttama-adhikari devotee for a guru, and would
undoubtedly increase everyone's desire to hear directly from Srila
Prabhupada, whether they are his personally-initiated disciples or
not." |
Having
just told us that he wishes to remain free from 'speculation and theory',
the author proposes that we institute practices in ISKCON simply because
in the opinion if the author they are following a 'cultural ideal' and are
'tried and proven examples' in 'successfully established vedic lineage'.
Also by doing this, in the opinion of the author we would 'create a
panacea for those suffering from doubts and confusion about having a
maha-bhagavata, uttama-adhikari devotee for a guru'.
This may be all well and good.
But is this what was ordered by the very person that the author is
trying to encourage us to follow - Srila Prabhupada? Unfortunately, there is no attempt made to determine this.
Thus, the author has simply offered his own 'speculation and
theory'. ISKCON was set up by
Srila Prabhupada to be 'managed ultimately' by a GBC whose mandate was as
follows:
"The
purpose of the Governing Body Commission is to act as the instrument for
the execution of the Will of His Divine Grace."
(Direction of Management for ISKCON, 28/7/70)
"Resolved:
The GBC (Governing Body Commission) has been established by His Divine
Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta
Swami Prabhupada to represent Him in carrying out the responsibility of
managing the International Society for Krishna Consciousness of which
He is the Founder-Acarya and supreme authority.
The GBC accepts as its life and soul His divine instructions
and recognises that it is completely dependent on His mercy in all
respects. The GBC has no
other function or purpose other than to execute the instructions so kindly
given by His Divine Grace and preserve and spread His Teachings to the
world in their pure form." (Definition
of GBC, Resolution 1, GBC minutes 1975)
There
is no mention that ISKCON should be governed by reference to 'cultural
ideals' from other 'established Vedic lineage's'.
The very method through which Srila Prabhupada wanted ISKCON
managed - by reference to his 'will and divine instructions'; the author
has not offered evidence from to support his 'theory'.
Until he can do so, his 'theory' will remain a 'speculation'.
| "During
the last twenty years we have developed an extremely unhealthy
over-emphasis on diksa gurus, rather than continuing ideas chalked
out by Srila Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati who so brilliantly preached
the philosophy of the bhagavata parampara.
His Divine Grace emphasised that those who know and preach
the purport of the Srimad Bhagavatam are our real gurus, not simply
the individual who performs a fire sacrifice and/or changes our
name." |
Here
again by not referring directly to the words of Srila Prabhupada, the
author has made two elementary errors:
1)
He has equated a 'diksa guru' on whom we are placing an 'extremely
unhealthy over-emphasis' with the 'individual who performs a fire
sacrifice and/or changes the name'. However,
this is NOT the definition of a diksa guru at all.
Had the author read the July 9th letter, the author would know that
the 'individual who changes our name' is the RITVIK.
The 'individual who performs a fire sacrifice' was to be the TEMPLE
PRESIDENT. Thus even whilst
Srila Prabhupada was on the planet the performance of these activities
were not to be the way in which the diksa guru is defined.
Rather Srila Prabhupada states that the diksa guru is a rather more
powerful individual:
"In
other words, the spiritual master awakens the sleeping living entity to
his original consciousness so that he can worship Lord Visnu.
This is the purpose of diksa, or initiation.
Initiation means receiving the pure knowledge of spiritual
consciousness."
"Diksa
actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by
which he becomes freed from all material contamination."
"Diksa
is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge
and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows
this process as diksa."
(C.c. Madhya, 15.108,
purport)
We
are surprised that the author has made the elementary mistake of confusing
a diksa guru with a ritvik, especially since the author had informed us
that in producing this paper:
| "As
we read all of Srila Prabhupada's books thoroughly, we
underlined each and every quote mentioning the concept or word guru;
in 1979 computers were not common and there was no Vedabase". |
2)
The person from whom we receive the message of the Bhagavatam IS
THE person who directly links us to the parampara:
"...in
order to receive the real message of Srimad-Bhagavatam one should
approach the current link, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic
succession." (S.B.
2.9.7, purport)
Unfortunately,
this lack of understanding of the reality of diksa forms the foundation
for the theme underlying the author's whole paper.
That Srila Prabhupada is our siksa guru only, and that we must have
other diksa gurus, but that we must not 'emphasise' them too much - and
thus we can see how some of conclusions presented in the rest of this
paper will collapse.
| "Although
the diksa and siksa gurus are equal manifestations of the Supreme
Lord, as previously cited, we can lean toward or emphasise one above
the other, just as the madhurya aspect of love of God can be
considered above dasya, sakhya, and vatsalya although all are
transcendentally equal." |
Yet
again the author offers no evidence from Srila Prabhupada that this is
what he wanted us to do in ISKCON. Instead,
the author attempts to look through his telescope at the history of our
parampara and speculate about exactly what happened then, and on that
basis try and figure out what should be done in ISKCON.
I say 'speculate' because though all the points he makes in this
section may appear reasonable he does not offer one quotation from Srila
Prabhupada to back up his conclusions.
We
do of course have the correct alternative of going directly to Srila
Prabhupada's instructions themselves.
| "Taking
our own parampara example still further, we should note that Srila
Visvanatha Cakravarti never received diksa from Narottama dasa
Thakura, the guru mentioned as his predecessor.
History also reveals that Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura's
diksa-guru was named Vipin Bihari Gosvami.
He never received diksa from Jagannatha das Babaji.
Why, then, is Jagannatha dasa Babaji's picture on ISKCON
altars as a guru in the parampara?" |
Yet,
SRILA PRABHUPADA does not actually teach all these distinctions.
On the contrary, he ONLY states:
"Jagannatha
Dasa Babaji INITIATED
Bhaktivinoda Thakura." (Adi,
1, Introduction)
Again,
we note that the author seems to be unable to establish many of his
conclusions by reference to Srila Prabhupada.
This would either mean that Srila Prabhupada gave incomplete or
mis-leading information. Yet,
we do not believe that the author believes this, since throughout the
paper the author is also glorifying Srila Prabhupada to the max:
| "The
shakti displayed by Srila Prabhupada in awakening conditioned souls
from maya has never been matched by any saktyavesa-avatara, any
jagad-guru, or even any avatara of God Himself in the known history
of mankind! What
audacity it takes to produce your own books or lecture tapes without
encouraging your disciples hear directly from Srila
Prabhupada." |
What
the author says here is wonderful and we could not have put it better
ourselves. Similarly the
author should follow these sentiments and clearly establish any
conclusions by hearing 'DIRECTLY
from Srila Prabhupada'.
|
"The message of Godhead, or spiritual sound vibration, is passed down by instructions imparted from guru to disciple, not simply by diksa-initiation." |
However,
as we showed in the definitions of diksa before, the process of diksa is
NOT divorced from 'instructions imparted from guru to disciple'.
Initiation
means receiving the pure knowledge of spiritual
consciousness."
"Diksa
actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by
which he becomes freed from all material contamination."
The
'divya-jnana', transcendental knowledge is imparted by the diksa guru to
the disciple.
| "Can
you believe it? The
shakti displayed by Srila Prabhupada in awakening conditioned souls
has never been matched by any saktyavesa-avatara, any jagad-guru, or
even any avatara of God Himself in the known history of
mankind!" |
Here
the author practically states that Srila Prabhupada IS everybody's Diksa
Guru, for 'awakening conditioned souls from maya' is very similar to the
definition that Srila Prabhupada gives for DIKSA:
"In
other words, the spiritual master awakens the sleeping living entity to
his original consciousness so that he can worship Lord Visnu.
This is the purpose of diksa, or initiation.
Initiation means receiving the pure knowledge of spiritual
consciousness."
"Diksa
is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental
knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows
this process as diksa."
(C.c. Madhya, 15.108,
purport)
| "Concept
#9 - We should not swing to the other end of the pendulum by
implementing the ritvik system, but should rather implement the
proven Vedic cultural system of following our Founder-acarya." |
Having
made the fundamental errors above, we see how now the author leads up to
in the conclusion of his paper to rejecting the very solution to the
problem of keeping Srila Prabhupada in the centre that Srila Prabhupada
gave himself.
| "Srila
Prabhupada never publicly stated that this was what he wanted.
During the thousands of lectures, room conversations, and
interviews, he did not clarify the ritvik process as the method that
would continue his movement after his departure." |
The July 9th letter was sent to the whole movement, so how can it not be stating it 'publicly'?
Srila
Prabhupada gradually started devolving the elements of the initiation
ceremony right from the very beginning, and the majority of Srila
Prabhupada's disciples were initiated without even physically meeting
Srila Prabhupada. Before
his leaving, Srila Prabhupada then sends out a letter documenting that
the disciples were to now carry the whole process out for the entire
movement. Why is this not
clear?
Also
the ritvik system merely keeps things the SAME, - Srila Prabhupada
continues doing what he has always done - initiate everyone who joins
the movement. Why is the
author asserting that Srila Prabhupada needs to continually state
everyday that he will stay the diksa guru as if the ritvik system was
proposing a drastic change to the way in which he had so far run his
movement? Srila
Prabhupada never continually STATED that he was the diksa guru for
ISKCON when he was PRESENT. At
the end, he simply keeps things running as they are, and in a manner,
that everybody was familiar with.
Where is the evidence that Srila Prabhupada was setting up a
movement in which he was going to shortly remove himself as the
central focus for future generations, and that he would be replaced as
the diksa guru for ISKCON? It
is THIS notion that Srila Prabhupada would have needed to Continually
PUBLICLY state in order for there to be anything that the 'ritvik'
system would have drastically changed that daily clarification was
needed.
|
"Krishna
Kant has based his entire argument on a letter composed in July of
1977, and it has genuine merit, but only one quote in all the times
Srila Prabhupada spoke leaves a trail of ambiguity that is difficult
to follow." |
My
argument is not just based on one letter, though even if it was, if it is
a directive to the whole movement it still needs to be followed.
Is the author stating that an instruction for the whole movement
can be ignored simply because it was stated once, or over 100 times, as
with the July 9th letter (the letter was sent to every GBC and temple)?
| "2)
There remains the very real question of Srila Prabhupada's
acceptance of these disciples.
Guru-disciple relationship requires two people, and the guru
must agree to accept each disciple.
How can Srila Prabhupada agree to accept everyone?
Carte blanche initiations?
That didn't even happen when he was personally present!
This method of initiation too closely parallels Christianity,
wherein Jesus Christ is seen as the only pure devotee who can
"save" his followers.
Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy differs from this concept." |
This
question of course is answered in the 'Final Order', and even when Srila
Prabhupada WAS present, the ritvik system was in place, with the ritvik's
accepting the disciples without ANY reference to Srila Prabhupada.
Unfortunately, in displaying this ignorance, the author has not
followed the very advice he gave his own readers at the beginning of the
paper:
|
"If
you're like me, and skip here and there while surfing the net, I
would suggest you copy and download this file so you can scrutinise
it more closely at your convenience, instead of browsing through a
few philosophical concepts and then jumping to something else.
This article gradually develops a logical progression of
philosophical premises and is best digested in its entirety." "3)
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, there are no other examples of
a ritvik-guru system in any bona fide Vaisnava sampradaya.
One of the fundamental principles of Vaisnava philosophy is
to follow the previous acaryas without inventing something
new." |
Again
this point is answered in the 'Final Order'.
We also have another paper that deals specifically with
this point - 'The Unprecedented Objection'
The
author confuses the lack of 'examples' of something with a change in
the Gaudiya Vaisnava PHILOSOPHY.
There are no other 'examples' of MANY things Srila Prabhupada
instituted either. So
what? They are still
bona-fide as long as they do not violate sastra.
Does Srila Prabhupada remaining the bona fide diksa guru in the
parampara through whom we are connected violate any of Srila
Prabhupada's teachings? If
not then how can its novelty be an excuse to reject it?
Since
Srila Prabhupada instituted the July 9th letter to be followed in
ISKCON, by not following that then we are also not following the
acaryas and inventing something.
| "A
cursory study of other Vaisnava sampradaya's reveals that the
Samsthapakacarya, the Founder-Acarya, is the foundational siksa
guru, and all subsequent gurus are simply representatives of his
teachings, but there are no examples of a ritvik system in any of
them." |
Srila
Prabhupada specifically defines the ritvik in the July 9th letter as
the 'representative of the acarya'.
So this is in line with what the author is saying.
As
we have demonstrated above, simply because these exact representatives
may have not been used before is not in itself a reason to reject the
ritvik/representative of the acarya system.
| "This
concept of representing the Founder-Acarya also guards society from
guru fanaticism or sentimentality that gradually leads to a
breakdown of unity and the establishment of various camps or
offshoots, a trend that has already begun in ISKCON." |
So
does following the actual system which Srila Prabhupada ordered.
| "Unfortunately
history has already left another vivid example of how losing focus
on the Founder-Acarya can practically destroy a movement. Not long after the disappearance of Srila Bhaktisidhanta
Sarasvati, his disciples lost their focus on him and began
establishing themselves as acaryas, instead of co-operating together
as his sisyas, followers of his teachings.
Today, only sixty years after his disappearance (a very short
time indeed compared to 10,000 years), the Gaudiya Matha has
fractured into multiple branches and lost its core strength.
If we don't establish this vital understanding of Srila
Prabhupada as the siksa guru for our entire society, then what's to
prevent the very same thing, or worse, from happening to
ISKCON-especially after the disappearance of the present generation
of Srila Prabhupada's directly initiated disciples?" |
The
fracture occurred in the Gaudiya Matha specifically because the disciples
disobeyed the order of the Guru, and became initiating gurus themselves -
which is exactly what will still continue in ISKCON if we followed the
author's solution to continue to reject Srila Prabhupada's July 9th
letter:
Why
this Gaudiya Matha failed? Because
they tried to become more than guru.
He, before passing away, he gave all direction and never said that
'This man should be the next acarya.' But these people, just after his
passing away they began to fight, who shall be acarya.
That is the failure. They
never thought, 'Why Guru Maharaja gave us instruction so many things, why
he did not say that this man should be acarya?' They wanted to create
artificially somebody acarya and everything failed.
They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Maharaja
wanted to appoint somebody as acarya, why did he not say?
He said so many things, and this point he missed?
The real point? And they insist upon it.
They declared some unfit person to become acarya.
Then another man came, then another, acarya, another acarya.
So better remain a foolish person perpetually to be directed by
Guru Maharaja. That is perfection.
"The
only justification that the GBC can give for disbanding the ritvik system
is that the ritvik's were 'appointed' and 'selected' to become 'initiating
acaryas' (GBC resolution 1978, 'Gurus and Initiation in ISKCON',
GBC 1995, Disciple of My Disciple, 1997).
The
author's proposal will keep this initial maha-deviation intact.
He is simply attempting to fix a SYMPTOM of this original
adi-deviation - the lack of focus on Srila Prabhupada.
But 'do no treat the symptom, cure the disease.'
| "In
direct contrast to the Gaudiya Matha, we have two excellent examples
of working systems; systems that have endured the test of time. Ramanujacarya lived approximately one thousand years ago.
That's right, one thousand years!
And today the Sri Sampradaya remains respected, strong, and
healthy. How did they
do that? The
Madhvacarya sampradaya also remains strong and healthy, and has been
so for more than eight hundred years.
ISKCON, on the other hand, was incorporated a mere thirty-two
years ago and is already experiencing traumatic difficulties.
I suggest it would be wise to thoroughly research these other
respected sampradaya's, and then implement administrative policies
that have worked and proven their merit for many generations." |
We
also have an even better example of a perfect working system - the
system that was established by Srila Prabhupada himself, and with
which he spread Krsna Consciousness himself - having himself as the
diksa guru with his disciples performing the formalities of diksa.
A system, which he also directed, should be instituted in
ISKCON before just before he departed.
Srila
Prabhupada NEVER told us that if we have a problem, we should fix it
by looking at what we think 'works successfully' in other
sampradaya's. This is a
perfect example of the 'speculation' that the author claims he has
attempted to avoid in this paper.
Rather we should only follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions in
this matter. Or is the
author suggesting that Srila Prabhupada purposely did NOT tell us
which guru system should be followed, that we need to look elsewhere
to figure it out?
| "Each
of these above mentioned bona fide sampradaya's have somehow
established systematic methods of continuing their line of the
parampara while keeping the original teachings of their
Founder-Acaryas in tact. Not
only that, they have also preserved a unique reverence for their
founders. We must do
the same by following the Vedic system.
Srila Prabhupada must be glorified as the Founder-Acarya and
should be revered as such for hundreds and thousands of years.
Each subsequent guru, now and in the future, should simply be
recognised as a representative of Srila Prabhupada and his
teachings. This is an
established Vedic etiquette." |
Srila
Prabhupada also gave us a system whereby the 'line of parampara
continues', the teachings remain 'intact', there is also an 'unique
reverence for the founder', and the disciples are only 'representatives'.
It was outlined in the July 9th letter.
It seems the author is hell-bent on introducing any system from
anywhere, except the ritvik system given by Srila Prabhupada, even though
the author is trying to achieve the same result.
Best to stick with Srila Prabhupada's instructions ONLY.
| "To
implement this mature understanding of Srila Prabhupada as the focal
point in our society, however, requires mature devotees, selfless
devotees who realise their position in relation to the
Founder-Acarya. Unfortunately,
there are very few who are manifesting this mentality at the present
time. Rather, most
gurus are influenced by false ego in relation to "their
disciples" and thus havoc will continue until these anomalies
are corrected from a personal and administrative level" |
The
author is also here admitting that the current diksa gurus in ISKCON are
not even qualified to be Gurus. Srila
Prabhupada states that:
Maha-bhagavata-srestho
brahmano vai gurur nrnam
sarvesam eva lokanam asau pujyo yatha harih
maha-kula-prasuto' pi sarva-yajnesu diksitah
sahasra-sakhadhya yi ca na guruh syad avaisnavah
"The
guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional
service. There are three
classes of devotees, and the guru must be accepted from the
topmost class."
"When
one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be
accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of
Godhead. Only such a
person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru."
| "The
Ritvik Theory was the outcome of a pendulum swing-the opposite
extreme of the Zonal Guru syndrome in the early eighties.
On one end of the pendulum swing were the New Gurus, many
who, no doubt, fell victim to pride and power invested in them
through ecclesiastical politics.
On the other end of the pendulum swing were those who
fiercely opposed the new regime and propounded the Ritvik Theory,
stating that all the new gurus were only insignificant pawns
empowered to perform the rituals of sacrifice." |
Here
the author confuses HOW a theory is formulated with WHY it may become
prominent. The theory itself
is based on instructions from Srila Prabhupada.
He may argue that we have misunderstood those instructions but that
is another matter. However,
the theory was not just concocted as an expedient measure to curb the
gurus. Ironically as we have
shown above, this is exactly what the author seems to have done here.
| "Both
ends of the swing are extremities and by-products of the mode of
passion. Proper balance
is found somewhere near the center, in the mode of goodness, and
proper balance can be found in the fact that Srila Prabhupada's
teachings are the structural foundation for ISKCON and all of us are
representatives of those teachings-even the non-liberated
souls." |
The
proper balance is found by following Srila Prabhupada's instructions,
as given in his July 9th directive, not in trying to invent a system
by looking at other sampradaya's, something which Srila Prabhupada did
not ask us to do.
Ironically,
this directive results in the fact that "Srila Prabhupada's
teachings are the structural foundation for ISKCON and all of us are
representatives of those teachings - even the non-liberated
souls".
|
Conclusion |
The
author has said many wonderful things about Srila Prabhupada, and we
appreciate his attempt to keep Srila Prabhupada in the centre.
We
appreciate the fact that he has acknowledged that the current Guru
system in ISKCON definitely needs to be changed.
Unfortunately
the solution he proposes is based on rejecting Srila Prabhupada's
instructions and instead trying to come up with some theory from other
sampradaya's that Srila Prabhupada himself has not told us to adopt. Further this approach will only abate the symptoms of the
problem; it will not cure the actual disease that the author is trying
to combat.
We
would humbly suggest that the author amends some parts of his paper in
line with the above. Many
of his concepts about keeping Srila Prabhupada's position central are
great.